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Grumman G-21A Goose

Grumman's twin-engine Goose amphibian, used for business, military and utility flying.

Meet the aircraft

Grumman conceived the Goose as transport for businessmen around Long Island. A boat hull, retractable landing gear and two engines mounted high on the wing allowed travel between water and conventional airfields. Military service followed during the Second World War.

The G-21 is smaller than Grumman's Albatross, with a different cabin and service history. Civilian survivors and military JRF versions can carry different equipment.

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Catalogue programme-20261011-v3

FFB-BRIDGE BUILT-IN PROFILE

Grumman G-21A Goose

Free and ProRevision 2Partial review

Grumman G-21A Goose: The chosen resistance accompanies the amphibious transport’s controls.

Aircraft and simulator scope

  • Grumman G-21A Goose · MSFS 2024 · family starting point
  • Grumman G-21A Goose · MSFS 2020 · family starting point

Grumman G-21A Goose · Separate manuals cover the MSFS 2020 and 2024 G-21A Goose, with revised radio interaction in the latter.

The simulator model and controls

Grumman conceived the Goose as transport for businessmen around Long Island. A boat hull, retractable landing gear and two engines mounted high on the wing allowed travel between water and conventional airfields. Military service followed during the Second World War.

This starting point selects Grumman G-21A Goose. Its aircraft-level settings do not select a particular developer’s custom systems.

How this profile feels

The chosen resistance accompanies the amphibious transport’s controls. Spring resistance builds with the selected airspeed response. A separate aerodynamic term adds speed-dependent control load.

Pitch relief is separate from hull contact and the selected civil/military fit. Valid trim provides the configured pressure relief. Autopilot following is off.

Controls and trim

The G-21 Goose combines a boat hull, retractable gear and two wing-mounted engines to connect water and conventional airfields. Civil G-21 and military JRF aircraft retain their own equipment within a family that served both private transport and wartime operators.

About the values

The gains are normalized profile settings. They describe the chosen effect balance; hand force depends on the device and its output limits. IAS references are tuning values rather than operating limits. Physical acceptance of this revision remains pending.

What the documentation establishes

Separate manuals cover the MSFS 2020 and 2024 G-21A Goose, with revised radio interaction in the latter.

The amphibious gear moves between water and land configurations; the checklists document Stage 1 and full-down flaps without a complete detent schedule.

Both manuals quote cruise at 145 mph and lower approach speeds in mph. The retained 135-knot reference is not a directly sourced IAS cruise value.

Documentary review and sources

These decisions describe the documentary basis and remaining gaps for this revision. Aircraft documentation and a starting setting describe different kinds of evidence.

Flight controls
Not yet reviewed

The G-21 Goose combines a boat hull, retractable gear and two wing-mounted engines to connect water and conventional airfields. Civil G-21 and military JRF aircraft retain their own equipment within a family that served both private transport and wartime operators.

Starting settings and their rationale

These configured values are starting estimates. The explanations describe what each setting controls; physical validation appears separately below.

Estimated starting settings · revision 2
SettingStarting valueWhat it controls and why
Spring strengthStarting value0.74 What it controls and whyThe chosen resistance accompanies the amphibious transport’s controls. The baseline spring is 0.74. Its low-speed blend reaches baseline strength at 67.5 KIAS.
Master force gainStarting value0.85 What it controls and whyScales overall profile strength while preserving effect balance, subject to device and output limits.
Profile force gainStarting value0.8 What it controls and whyThe aerodynamic-load gain is 0.8 with an indicated-speed reference of 135 KIAS. This supplies speed-dependent loading alongside the spring.
Force tuning speed/referenceStarting value135.0 ktWhat it controls and whySets the IAS reference for aerodynamic loading. It is an estimate, not published cruise TAS or a flight limit.
Spring response reference speedStarting value67.5 ktWhat it controls and whySets the IAS where the low-speed blend reaches baseline strength; high-speed stiffening also uses it.
Aileron force scaleStarting value0.72 What it controls and whyRoll and pitch aerodynamic scales are 0.72 and 1, respectively. They set the aerodynamic axis balance. No custom spring-travel curve is enabled.
Elevator force scaleStarting value1.0 What it controls and whyScales pitch aerodynamic loading; pitch spring travel and trim responses are separate settings.
Trim feelStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyRetained for compatibility and group membership. Trim relief, rather than this flag, controls centre movement.
Trim reliefStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyAllows trim relief with supported control law and valid telemetry. Axis authorities set its amount.
Autopilot followStarting valueDisabled What it controls and whyAutopilot following is off; the configured spring and load retain the hardware feel.
Autopilot neutral holdStarting valueDisabled What it controls and whyPermits centering hold during a supported AP state, separate from following a moving target.
Output force limitStarting value0.55 What it controls and whyCaps directed-force output. Native spring effects and device limits remain separate.
All 44 starting settings and their rationale

The settings define the profile’s effect balance. Device output limits affect physical hand force.

Estimated starting settings · revision 2
SettingStarting valueWhat it controls and why
Spring strengthStarting value0.74 What it controls and whyThe chosen resistance accompanies the amphibious transport’s controls. The baseline spring is 0.74. Its low-speed blend reaches baseline strength at 67.5 KIAS.
Spring deadbandStarting value0.045 What it controls and whySets travel around the centre before the baseline spring resists. Smaller values engage it sooner.
Profile force gainStarting value0.8 What it controls and whyThe aerodynamic-load gain is 0.8 with an indicated-speed reference of 135 KIAS. This supplies speed-dependent loading alongside the spring.
Master force gainStarting value0.85 What it controls and whyScales overall profile strength while preserving effect balance, subject to device and output limits.
QBlend EnabledStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyAllows baseline spring strength to rise with indicated airspeed where the control law permits it.
QSpring Minimum FactorStarting value0.5 What it controls and whySets low-speed spring strength as a fraction of baseline when blending is enabled. One keeps full strength.
QSpring Start KnotsStarting value18.9 ktWhat it controls and whySets the IAS where the low-speed spring blend starts rising. This is a feel threshold, not a flight limit.
Spring response reference speedStarting value67.5 ktWhat it controls and whySets the IAS where the low-speed blend reaches baseline strength; high-speed stiffening also uses it.
Force tuning speed/referenceStarting value135.0 ktWhat it controls and whySets the IAS reference for aerodynamic loading. It is an estimate, not published cruise TAS or a flight limit.
Airspeed spring stiffening gainStarting value0.15 What it controls and whyThe high-speed spring-stiffening gain is 0.15. It strengthens the permitted spring response above 67.5 KIAS, with the squared-speed ratio capped at 5.
Airspeed spring stiffening limitStarting value5 What it controls and whyLimits the squared airspeed ratio used for high-speed spring stiffening; it is not a device-force cap.
Aileron force scaleStarting value0.72 What it controls and whyRoll and pitch aerodynamic scales are 0.72 and 1, respectively. They set the aerodynamic axis balance. No custom spring-travel curve is enabled.
Elevator force scaleStarting value1.0 What it controls and whyScales pitch aerodynamic loading; pitch spring travel and trim responses are separate settings.
Output force limitStarting value0.55 What it controls and whyCaps directed-force output. Native spring effects and device limits remain separate.
Trim feelStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyRetained for compatibility and group membership. Trim relief, rather than this flag, controls centre movement.
Trim reliefStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyAllows trim relief with supported control law and valid telemetry. Axis authorities set its amount.
Elevator AuthorityStarting value0.3 What it controls and whyPitch relief is separate from hull contact and the selected civil/military fit. Pitch authority 0.3 provides load relief and permitted centre movement; roll authority is 0.
Aileron AuthorityStarting value0 What it controls and whyScales supported roll-trim relief and permitted centre movement. Zero removes roll response.
Force Trim EnabledStarting valueDisabled What it controls and whyEnables local force trim, separate from aircraft-owned trim and add-on integration qualification.
GLoad EnabledStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyAllows load-factor changes to modify permitted spring laws. Passive fly-by-wire feel can suppress it.
Rate Damping EnabledStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyEnables rate damping with the configured coefficients and control law.
Autopilot followStarting valueDisabled What it controls and whyAutopilot following is off; the configured spring and load retain the hardware feel.
Autopilot follow authorityStarting value0.1 What it controls and whySets admitted AP-follow gain, not a percentage of travel. Runtime ownership and input limits still apply.
Autopilot neutral holdStarting valueDisabled What it controls and whyPermits centering hold during a supported AP state, separate from following a moving target.
Autopilot neutral hold strengthStarting value0.6 What it controls and whySets admitted AP neutral-hold strength; inactive while neutral hold is disabled.
EnabledStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyEnables aerodynamic cues; each still needs nonzero strength and its simulator conditions.
GainStarting value0.35 What it controls and whySets stall-buffet strength. Zero removes the cue without changing simulator stalls or warnings.
GainStarting value0 What it controls and whySets high-Mach buffet strength; onset and full-strength thresholds are separate.
GainStarting value0.14 What it controls and whySets flap buffet at the configured position and speed gates. Flap movement texture is separate.
Maximum flap indexStarting value3 What it controls and whySets the final flap index for detent normalization. UP plus three detents uses maximum index3.
Minimum flap indexStarting value2 What it controls and whySets the first flap detent that admits buffet; this is a handle index, not degrees.
GainStarting value0.1 What it controls and whySets gear aerodynamic buffet; movement and ground-contact cues are separate.
Shaker EnabledStarting valueDisabled What it controls and whyPermits shaker at supported warning conditions; the switch does not establish aircraft equipment.
Stick shaker amplitudeStarting value0.5 What it controls and whySets triggered shaker strength; inactive while the shaker feature is disabled.
EnabledStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyEnables ground effects; each still needs its own strength and contact or motion telemetry.
GainStarting value0.4 What it controls and whySets rolling texture strength, modified by speed, surface and undercarriage configuration.
GainStarting value0.25 What it controls and whySets gear-bump texture during ground motion, separate from touchdown impact.
GainStarting value0.65 What it controls and whySets landing-impact strength; landing telemetry and response shape determine the pulse.
GainStarting value0 What it controls and whySets reverse-thrust vibration with valid reverser and engine conditions. Zero removes the cue.
EnabledStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyEnables engine cues with nonzero settings and valid running-engine telemetry.
GainStarting value0.12 What it controls and whySets estimated engine vibration using configured telemetry and response, not measured cockpit vibration.
EnabledStarting valueEnabled What it controls and whyEnables accessory cues with configured strengths and observed accessory movement.
GainStarting value0.12 What it controls and whySets texture from observed flap movement; a command without movement does not establish the cue.
GainStarting value0.12 What it controls and whySets texture from observed gear movement, separate from aerodynamic and touchdown effects.
Limits and open questions
  • The checklists establish stick and rudder use but not primary control linkage or gearing.
  • Neither brief guide describes trim hardware or its force effect.
  • An installed automatic-flight system is not established by either guide.
  • Radio EFB interaction does not define control, trim or gear telemetry for external force feedback.
  • The guides give no measured stick loads or water-contact vibration amplitude.
  • Grumman G-21A Goose documentary evidence does not establish force-feedback hardware acceptance.

Physical validation

No physical force validation is recorded in this public catalogue for this revision. Documentary review and software checks do not establish how a particular device feels.

FFB-Bridge maintains this profile’s revisions and tuning discussion.

Revision 2 and download availability in FFB-Bridge ↗
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Master force gain
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QBlend Enabled
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QSpring Minimum Factor
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QSpring Start Knots
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Spring response reference speed
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Force tuning speed/reference
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Airspeed spring stiffening gain
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Airspeed spring stiffening limit
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Aileron force scale
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Elevator force scale
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Output force limit
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Trim feel
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Trim relief
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Elevator Authority
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Aileron Authority
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Force Trim Enabled
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GLoad Enabled
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Rate Damping Enabled
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Autopilot follow
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Autopilot follow authority
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Autopilot neutral hold
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Autopilot neutral hold strength
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Gain
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Aero.Mach.Gain
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Aero.Flap.Gain
Maximum flap index
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Minimum flap index
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Gain
Aero.Gear.Gain
Shaker Enabled
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Stick shaker amplitude
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Ground.Enabled
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Ground.Rumble.Gain
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Ground.Bumps.Gain
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Ground.Thump.Gain
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Ground.Reverse.Gain
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Engine.Enabled
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Mechanical.Enabled
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Mechanical.FlapMotion.Gain
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Mechanical.GearMotion.Gain